EPISODE 229: Pastoring Communicators and Creatives with Ben Stapley (Part One)


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Did you know in a survey of Ex-Pastors:

64% consider themselves overworked
71% have experienced burnout
77% feel there are unrealistic demands
85% have considered leaving ministry

Overworked and burned out leaders is a problem in the Church. So what are we doing about it?

This week on the show, we will talking with Ben Stapley all about how to pastor communicators and creatives.
Ben and Carl walk through practical steps to pastor up, pastor down and pastor in.



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